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	<title>Illiteration – Testing times in Software Testing</title>
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		<title>Does cucumber suck?</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/31/does-cucumber-suck/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Agile]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Agile testing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ruby]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Systems Thinking]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[cucumber]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been having a lot of rants about Cucumber of late, as it&#8217;s the new  shiny thing for agile teams.  Does anyone else have issues with it?   I&#8217;ve asked all of my programmer friends to convince me of its worth, and  they&#8217;ve all failed so far.  I&#8217;ve not seen it adding any [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been having a lot of rants about Cucumber of late, as it&#8217;s the new  shiny thing for agile teams.  Does anyone else have issues with it?   I&#8217;ve asked all of my programmer friends to convince me of its worth, and  they&#8217;ve all failed so far.  I&#8217;ve not seen it adding any value above  building a good API (and I see it bringing a lot of negatives relative  to other possible approaches).</p>
<p>In my experience, I&#8217;m seeing -</p>
<p>- Customers/non-programmers never write the tests (because they have  very little interest in specifying everything in given-when-then.  They  just want to tell us what they want.  And  it doesn&#8217;t make much sense to specify everything in that format anyway).<br />
- Customers/non-programmers write the tests but it focuses the test  effort on writing those kinds of tests, rather than other testing that  seems to add more value.<br />
- The tests are written in English, but what the test actually does  depends on how the developers convert the english phrases into code (so  there&#8217;s no guarantee it tests what the customer intended anyway).<br />
- Avoidance of conversation (ie. tests as contracts).<br />
- Cucumber and the related tools (through the toy examples they provide)  encourage developers to put lots of implementation detail into the  tests (and sometimes to do a lot more testing through the GUI/http layer  rather than pushing some of that testing down).<br />
- Refactoring sucks as we lose IDE support.<br />
- Much heavier test artefacts (when a lot of the teams I work with are  already struggling with the weight of their agile test automation).<br />
- A continued focus of tests on what the system does and not why it does it and the business outcome.<br />
- Anecdotally, I&#8217;m not seeing better outcomes than people were getting  with other approaches.  I realise it may be leading to better designs,  but then I&#8217;d expect to see improvements somewhere in the process.  That  looks like it would require better modelling skills than I&#8217;m seeing in  most of the cucumber tests on my projects.</p>
<p>Most of the examples that I&#8217;ve seen where people are claiming success  are fairly small applications.  I&#8217;m not seeing the approach scale that  well.  Yes, most teams could do write their cucumber tests better, but even then, in my  experience, other approaches would be more effective and more efficient.</p>
<p>Any thoughts?  If there&#8217;s interest, I&#8217;ll try and post some examples of what I think those tests might look like if we pushed them into other forms.</p>
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		<title>Record and playback with Watir script recorders</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/18/record-and-playback-with-watir-script-recorders/</link>
		<comments>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/18/record-and-playback-with-watir-script-recorders/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Test Tools]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Watir]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[capture and playback]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[cubictest]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[record and playback]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[script recorder]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[watir recoder]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[A frequently asked question for Watir seems to be whether there are any &#8220;record and playback&#8221; tools.  While most of the references point to a somewhat old tool, two viable alternatives seem much harder to find for some reason.
The first is Webmetrics&#8216; Global Watch Script recorder, available at http://www.webmetrics.com/products/script_recorder.html
The second, is CubicTest.  This uses SeleniumIDE [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A frequently asked question for Watir seems to be whether there are any &#8220;record and playback&#8221; tools.  While most of the references point to a somewhat old tool, two viable alternatives seem much harder to find for some reason.</p>
<p>The first is <a href="http://www.webmetrics.com">Webmetrics</a>&#8216; Global Watch Script recorder, available at http://www.webmetrics.com/products/script_recorder.html</p>
<p>The second, is <a href="http://cubictest.seleniumhq.org/">CubicTest</a>.  This uses SeleniumIDE to record the test, but can generate a script for Watir.</p>
<p>(Update) A third is the <a href="http://itest2.com/en/testwise/downloads">Testwise Watir Recorder</a>, a Firefox plugin which I looked at a while back, but am unsure of it&#8217;s current state.</p>
<p>These will only get you so far, and have their own limitations, the most obvious of which is some corporate applications which only work in Internet Explorer. If a recorder is what you need though, there are a few options and these may get you further.  At any rate, hopefully they&#8217;re now easier for people to find.</p>
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		<title>Automating Flash, AJAX, Popups and more using Ruby, Watir and Sikuli</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/16/automating-flash-ajax-popups-and-more-using-ruby-watir-and-sikuli/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 01:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Technical testing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Test Tools]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Test automation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tool-assisted testing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[AJAX]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Flash]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Pop ups]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[popups]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[sikuli]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Silverlight]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Watir]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan Kohl pointed me at Sikuli, a Python-based tool for automating applications using image recognition.  Unlike most tools, which attempt to identify objects via public APIs, Sikuli looks at the pixels on the screen and attempts to identify objects based on how they look.
This isn&#8217;t exactly a new approach, as commercial tools have had this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.kohl.ca/">Jonathan Kohl</a> pointed me at <a href="http://groups.csail.mit.edu/uid/sikuli/">Sikuli</a>, a Python-based tool for automating applications using image recognition.  Unlike most tools, which attempt to identify objects via public APIs, Sikuli looks at the pixels on the screen and attempts to identify objects based on how they look.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t exactly a new approach, as commercial tools have had this feature for a long time as a means of creating custom objects.  So after playing with Sikuli, I wondered whether I could take advantage of it as a library to augment my Watir scripts in Ruby.</p>
<p>It turns out, the answer is &#8216;yes&#8217;, with a caveat.  You need to use JRuby (although you could probably do it in Ruby using the Ruby-Java bridge &#8211; It just looked a lot harder), and you also need to use Watir-Webdriver, a new implementation of Watir&#8217;s API which is used in a number of other automation frameworks.</p>
<p>Below is a simple example script and instructions to get you started.  It navigates to a website, then clicks on the flash control there. I&#8217;ve so far only tested this on Windows.  It should work on OSX and Linux, but perhaps not quite so easily (I&#8217;m waiting on some feedback).  Check the instructions for &#8216;Install OpenCV&#8217; at the <a href="http://sikuli.org/trac/wiki/How%20to%20use%20Sikuli%20Script%20in%20your%20JAVA%20programs">page with instructions for calling Sikuli from other tools</a>.</p>
<p>Sikuli can be used to automate Flash components, any challenging AJAX elements of your web application, to dismiss pop-ups or probably even to inspect visual elements of the page (though I&#8217;d want to do this minimally).  It&#8217;s a little slow, but an interesting and immediately useful add-on to Watir or your favourite java-based testing tool.</p>
<p><code><br />
#Install Java, or install the JRuby/JRE bundle at the next step<br />
#Install JRuby 1.5.1 - http://jruby.org/download<br />
#Install Sikuli - http://groups.csail.mit.edu/uid/sikuli/download.shtml<br />
#Install watir-webdriver (eg. jgem install watir-webdriver)<br />
#Update ssh - jgem install jruby-openssl<br />
#Copy sikuli-script.jar to \jruby-1.5.1\lib<br />
#Get the test image<br />
#Download http://www.software-testing.com.au/images/flashmap_middleeast.png and put it in the image folder as below<br />
#See http://sikuli.org/trac/wiki/How to use Sikuli Script in your JAVA programs for examples</code></p>
<p>require &#8216;rubygems&#8217;<br />
require &#8216;watir-webdriver&#8217;<br />
require &#8216;java&#8217;</p>
<p>java_import &#8220;edu.mit.csail.uid.SikuliScript&#8221;<br />
java_import &#8220;edu.mit.csail.uid.Region&#8221;<br />
java_import &#8220;edu.mit.csail.uid.Screen&#8221;</p>
<p>start_page=&#8217;http://www.lonelyplanet.com&#8217;<br />
image_folder=&#8221;c:/sikuli_icons/&#8221;</p>
<p>$screen=Screen.new<br />
$browser=Watir::Browser.new :ie<br />
$browser.goto start_page</p>
<p>$screen.click(&#8220;#{image_folder}flashmap_middleeast.png&#8221;,0)</p>
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		<title>Do you know what happens when the power goes off?</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/16/do-you-know-what-happens-when-the-power-goes-off/</link>
		<comments>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/16/do-you-know-what-happens-when-the-power-goes-off/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Heuristic testing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Testing Techniques]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[This news article where a hairdresser&#8217;s client went bald after a power loss in the salon reminded me of a test I frequently forget to run.
Power off your system or server while in the middle of testing and look for problems.  You&#8217;ll most frequently find issues if you aim for a power outage -
- in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100814/ap_on_fe_st/us_odd_unexpected_baldness">This news article</a> where a hairdresser&#8217;s client went bald after a power loss in the salon reminded me of a test I frequently forget to run.</p>
<p>Power off your system or server while in the middle of testing and look for problems.  You&#8217;ll most frequently find issues if you aim for a power outage -</p>
<p>- in the middle of a network communication (eg. client-server apps or network games).</p>
<p>- in the middle of a multi-step transaction.</p>
<p>- in the middle of disk operations.</p>
<p>The last one&#8217;s pretty brutal, but sometimes you need to know your application can survive it gracefully.  Have fun!</p>
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		<title>The state of Ruby versions</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/10/the-state-of-ruby-versions/</link>
		<comments>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/10/the-state-of-ruby-versions/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Ruby]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I love using Ruby, it&#8217;s become more frustrating over time.  Developers are feeling this, and as a tester, I&#8217;ve had my share as well.  This article, passed on by James Ladd sums things up for me (for testing, as well as development).
The best example of this in the Watir space is probably [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I love using Ruby, it&#8217;s become more frustrating over time.  Developers are feeling this, and as a tester, I&#8217;ve had my share as well.  <a href="http://www.kevingisi.com/2010/08/09/so-you-want-to-be-a-ruby-dev.html">This article</a>, passed on by <a href="http://jamesladdcode.com/">James Ladd</a> sums things up for me (for testing, as well as development).</p>
<p>The best example of this in the Watir space is probably here &#8211; http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Pop+Ups.  I recently lost half a day because apparently Watir&#8217;s &#8216;click_no_wait&#8217; doesn&#8217;t work in the release version of the 1.8.6 Windows one-click installer.  Of course, you have to use the beta release that came out after the 1.8.6 release, which is a bit trickier to find now that the one-click installer is not really supported (there&#8217;s a new Windows installer).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope things start to stabilise again soon.</p>
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		<title>Symbolic links in Windows XP</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/05/symbolic-links-in-windows/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[General]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I was surprised to learn today that symbolic links are possible in Windows XP.  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ll use them that often, but it will help me in replicating some linux build environment instructions.
Though not supported out of the box, you can download the tool that makes it happen at Microsoft&#8217;s sysinternals website.
I found it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised to learn today that symbolic links are possible in Windows XP.  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ll use them that often, but it will help me in replicating some linux build environment instructions.</p>
<p>Though not supported out of the box, you can download the tool that makes it happen at <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768.aspx">Microsoft&#8217;s sysinternals website</a>.</p>
<p>I found it via <a href="http://www.thierryb.net/site/Symbolic-links-in-Windows.html?lang=fr">this site.</a></p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve downloaded it, add it to your path and then simply:</p>
<p>junction &lt;linkname&gt; &lt;existing directory&gt;</p>
<p>So if you had a folder c:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\tomcat and you wanted to reference it as c:\tomcat, you would run:</p>
<p>junction c:\tomcat c:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\tomcat</p>
<p>Windows 7 and Vista apparently support this via the<a href="http://devstream.stefanklumpp.com/2009/10/windows-7-symbolic-hard-links.html"> &#8216;mklink&#8217; command</a>.</p>
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		<title>When security goes too far&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/08/03/when-security-goes-too-far/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 07:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
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Safe from hackers, safe from users.  Movable type takes Captcha to the next level!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/movabletypebug.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-487" title="movabletypebug" src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/movabletypebug.png" alt="Yes, type the text in the image. What image?" width="377" height="518" /></a></p>
<p>Safe from hackers, safe from users.  Movable type takes Captcha to the next level!</p>
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		<title>Watir popup examples not working (and a solution, finally)</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/07/26/watir-popup-examples-not-working-and-a-solution-finally/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been finding popups in Watir a pain of late, with most of the solutions on watir.com not working for me.  Finally today, I found something that worked.  Steve Swanson&#8217;s solution did the trick.
However, before it could work, I had to figure out that the AutoIT dll wasn&#8217;t correctly registered.  If you try the solution [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been finding popups in Watir a pain of late, with most of the solutions on watir.com not working for me.  Finally today, I found something that worked.  <a href="http://steveswanson.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/taking-action-on-javascript-popups-with-rubywatir-in-firefox-and-internet-explorer">Steve Swanson&#8217;s solution</a> did the trick.</p>
<p>However, before it could work, I had to figure out that the AutoIT dll wasn&#8217;t correctly registered.  If you try the solution above and find it to be behaving mysteriously, then try the steps on <a href="http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FAQ#FAQ-HowdoIfixaWIN32OLERuntimeErrorwhenIuseAutoIt%3F">Watir.com&#8217;s FAQ page</a>.</p>
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		<title>Feedback is nice. Good feedback is even nicer.</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/07/01/feedback-is-nice-good-feedback-is-even-nicer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I found out that my post on Watir and TinyMCE let someone dump their Quick Test Pro licences.
A victory for common sense&#8230;
Nothing against QTP, but if you&#8217;re testing web applications, you should probably be looking at other tools.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I found out that my post on <a href="http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2007/09/04/watir-difficulties-problems-and-trouble-with-tinymce/">Watir and TinyMCE</a> let someone dump their Quick Test Pro licences.</p>
<p>A victory for common sense&#8230;</p>
<p>Nothing against QTP, but if you&#8217;re testing web applications, you should probably be looking at other tools.</p>
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		<title>Things are even worse&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2010/06/10/things-are-even-worse/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
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